Wednesday, May 28, 2014
DID JESUS-CHRIST have blood brothers?
BerBible [New American Standard – Nasb]
3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon? Are not His sisters here with us?” And they took offense at Him.
40 There were also some women looking on from a distance, among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the Less and Joses, and Salome.
47 Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses were looking on to see where He was laid.
Jesus Revisits Nazareth
53 When Jesus had finished these parables, He departed from there.
54 He came to His hometown and began teaching them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished, and said, “Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?
55 “Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?
56 “And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this man get all these things?”
Did Jesus Have Brothers and Sisters?
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There is a common misconception in mainstream Christianity that Jesus Christ was an only child. In particular, the Catholic Church teaches that it was impossible for Jesus to have brothers and sisters because of the supposed “perpetual virginity” of His mother, Mary.
To refute these claims, we must examine relevant scriptures to prove whether the Bible supports either of these doctrines.
Matthew 13:54-57 (NKJV) reads, “When He had come to His own country, He taught them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished and said, ‘Where did this Man get this wisdom and these mighty works? Is this not the carpenter’s Son? Is not His mother called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses, Simon, and Judas? And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this Man get all these things?’ So they were offended at Him. But Jesus said to them, ‘A prophet is not without honor except in his own country and in his own house.’ Now He did not do many mighty works there because of their unbelief.”
From this single passage we can draw a number of conclusions:
Mary was the mother of Jesus
Jesus had four brothers
Jesus had at least two sisters
Jesus and His six or more siblings had a common mother; there is no mention of half-brothers or half-sisters
These are the most specific verses identifying the family relations of Jesus Christ.
Christ understood who His physical family was. But many today twist His words to make it seem as if Jesus portrayed the Church—His spiritual family—to be His blood relatives.
This false assumption comes from Matthew 12:46-50 (NKJV): “While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. Then one said to Him, ‘Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.’ But He answered and said to the one who told Him, ‘Who is My mother and who are My brothers?’ And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, ‘Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.’”
In this passage, Jesus taught that those in the Church who seek God’s will were His spiritual brothers and sisters, and that these relationships were more meaningful and lasting than those shared with physical family. Jesus was not denying His blood relatives; rather, He used them as an example to portray a much greater family relationship.
If we accept the above set of verses, it is nearly impossible to think that Christ was an only child, as this would plainly contradict the Bible. Another series of verses clearly shows that Mary, who was a virgin at the birth of Jesus, came together in sexual union with her husband after His birth. Matthew 1:18 (NKJV) reads, “Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.”
This implies that, as husband and wife, they eventually shared intimate relations.
Continuing in Matthew 1:20: “But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, ‘Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.’”
The angel did not express any words forbidding Joseph to take Mary to him as his wife, but instead encouraged him with the words “do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife.” The angel did not say, “Do not dare touch Mary for she is a perpetual virgin.”
These scriptural references serve to reinforce the truth about Christ’s blood relatives, and reveal that when the obvious meaning of straightforward passages is accepted, the truth becomes clear.
The concept of Mary’s perpetual virginity derived from the early writings of a Catholic scholar named Origen (A.D. 185-254). His claims—based on the apocryphal Gospel of James—which focuses on the childhood of Mary up to the birth and childhood of Christ, appeared around the middle of the second century.
This idea originated from the mystical practices of priestesses who worshipped various deities in Rome. The combination of Christianity and ancient pagan religions attracted early converts and became a dominant religious force. Mary’s traditional role as mother was changed and reworked as that of a perpetual virgin who should be worshipped as a goddess. This pseudo- Christian ideology made it easier for pagan worshippers to identify with her and, therefore, support the counterfeit religion.
An Ordinary Family
Verses in Matthew 13 reveal that Christ experienced a normal first-century family life. His father was a hardworking carpenter; His mother a loving wife; and He was close to His brothers and sisters. They grew up living an average life in Galilee, prompting the Pharisees to express, “Where did this Man get this wisdom and these mighty works?” (vs. 54, NKJV).
Certain scholars and theologians seek to portray Christ and His parents as mystics who practiced sacred rites and advocated Gnosticism and Asceticism. But a look at the Scriptures shows that Jesus Christ enjoyed a healthy, balanced life, learning and growing in His early years with brothers and sisters!
…the problem i find with Jesus-Christ having brothers and sisters, is that he does not mention them nor use them as Apostles or Disciples…!
So Jesus-Christ does not confer Son of God rights to his direct blood family! As to the Bible narrates!\
The Catholic Church negates Jesus having any blood brothers and sisters, in their teachings of the PERPETUAL VIRGINITY of God’s “MOTHER”…!
In pure logic, it simply does not make sense to be a CHRIST, nor a God personification in a human being, for at least the BIBLE’s purposes…!
IN PURE LOGIC, Jesus does not show much “blood relation brotherly love”…!
What another conundrum of the BIBLE…!
Monday, May 26, 2014
memorial day USA…!
Memorial Day USA
gehena place of the dead, sheol, hades
bible old testament
Memorial Day is a federal holiday in the United States for remembering the men and women who died while serving in the country’s armed forces. The holiday, which is celebrated every year on the last Monday of May.
She’ol (/ˈʃiːoʊl/ SHEE-ohl or /ˈʃiːəl/ SHEE-əl; Hebrew שְׁאוֹל Šʾôl), translated as “grave”, “pit”, or “abode of the dead”, is the underworld of the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible. It is a place of darkness to which all the dead go, both the righteous and the unrighteous, regardless of the moral choices made in life, a place of stillness and darkness cut off from God.
The inhabitants of Sheol were the “shades” (rephaim), entities without personality or strength. Under some circumstances they could be contacted by the living, as the Witch of Endor contacts the shade of Samuel for Saul, but such practices are forbidden (Deuteronomy 18:10). While the Old Testament writings describe Sheol as the permanent place of the dead, in the Second Temple period (roughly 500 BCE-70 CE) a more diverse set of ideas developed: in some texts, Sheol is the home of both the righteous and the wicked, separated into respective compartments; in others, it was a place of punishment, meant for the wicked dead alone. When the Hebrew scriptures were translated into Greek in ancient Alexandria around 200 BC the word “Hades” (the Greek underworld) was substituted for Sheol, and this is reflected in the New Testament where Hades is both the underworld of the dead and the personification of the evil it represents.
“In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return” (Genesis 3:19).
“All go unto one place; All are of the dust, and all turn to dust again” (Eccl. 3:20).
“Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was; and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it” (Eccl. 12:7).
“For He knoweth our frame; He remembereth that we are dust” (Psalm 103:14).
“Thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust” (Psalm 104:29).
In Daniel 12:2 the dead are described as those who “sleep in the dust.”
The O.T. Hebrew word for the place where the dead go is Sheol; the N.T. Greek word is Hades.
Genesis 37:35–Jacob said, “For I will go down into the grave (Sheol) unto my son mourning.”
Luke 16:22-23–“The rich man also died, and was buried, and in hell (Hades) he lift up his eyes, being in torments.”
Psalm 16:10–“For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (Sheol); neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.”
Psalm 16:10 is also quoted in the New Testament, in Acts 2:27–“Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (Hades), neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.” These two passages (Psalm 16:10 and Acts 2:27) demonstrate that the Old Testament term “Sheol” is equivalent to the New Testament term “Hades.”
The Lord’s body went into Joseph’s tomb (Matthew 27:59-60) but His soul went to Sheol/Hades: Acts 2:27–“Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (Hades), neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.” The body of Christ was in the grave, but God did not allow it to see corruption. The soul of Christ went to Hades but He was there only briefly. In Acts 2:31 Peter gives further explanation: “He (David) seeing this before, spake of the resurrection of Christ, that His soul was not left in hell (Hades), neither his flesh did see corruption.” Christ’s soul was in Sheol/Hades between His death and resurrection. The place where Christ’s soul went between His death and resurrection is also called paradise (Luke 23:43). Christ promised the thief on the cross that on that very day that he would be with Him in paradise. It is obvious that the thief on the cross was not with Christ in Joseph’s tomb, but he was with Him in paradise (Sheol/Hades).
gehena (valley of hinnom), place of the dead, sheol, hades
bible old testament
in pure logic, the only place i need to tell a child or anybody, where the dead go to sleep or whatever, is exactly that: the place of the dead, where they go after this life …! to no be too crude and say additionally, that is if they go anywhere, or better that i hope we do go to some place after death, but it cannot be hell [anglo saxon word] or the lake of fire eternally, as this is too extreme, draconian, orwellian and does not comply with pure logic justice, nor cause and effect, or anything else…!
although Jesus said he would be in paradise, it is expressed that his soul would not be left in hades/sheol…!
though i could not trust jesus as the new bible testament based on the jew old testament, is a increase and accommodation to the belief of heaven and hell, which is more than merely the place of the dead for the soul, and the dust of the earth for the body…!
a place of punishment after death, is something not clearly explained in the old testament, and at best, the dead had a separation from each other be it good or bad…! [ https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/hell-sheol-hades-paradise-and-the-grave/ ]